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I don't necessarily agree with a ban on those under 18, but I do strongly think that maturity and age are related to one another very strongly.

8:11 PM

I was mature in many ways as a kid, but very immature in others. Still true today.

But I am pretty damn sure that this was all a hell of a lot easier for my system 10 or more years ago than it is now

What do you mean?

8:12 PM

@Talin this

But then we also did a lot more shitty and immature things

is why we cant just ban em

Who is you, Alexis?

By easier I mean the results came much easier

I would kinda have to disagree with the ban on under-18's simply because of my own circumstances, heeh

Oh, it's the age debate.

it would be bad for your system should you be excluded @Deleted User

8:13 PM

"Who is you"

8:14 PM

What do you mean

you said what do you mean, I didn't know who you referred to

I wouldn't be here if there weren't tulpa discs

8:14 PM

Was talking to akagi

Gee and here I thought Alexis was more notorious than I was XD

I must be up there with Sophia and Syth by now /s

No

8:15 PM

Sophia is worse.

Kinda hard to compete with Sophia ye

I was not around for the drama with them.

Yeah, but she got knifed so she's out of it now

8:15 PM

...knifed?

Yup, she got stabbed

Knifed

wut

and died?

I think she's still in hospital

And no it wasn't me

She's been in there for two, three months now?

8:16 PM

Dunno, not heard any news lately

what on earth did they do to warrant stabbing?

Drugs @Talin

On any note, lets all move to the lounge at this point

ah

that's sad

This is really late, but my thoughts regarding the changes Alexis wants to make; if your goal is to make this community look less bizarre from an outsider's perspective, presumably to make our community bigger or well accepted, I think it's all or nothing. Tulpas will either be weird, strange, and people won't understand them (we have to keep hiding them), or they'll be mainstream, everyone is familiar and lots of people have one, and you can talk openly about them

10:47 PM

Until we reach a point where most people understand and accept tulpas, we still really can't "go public" I guess. I know certain people here have told certain people in their lives, but I believe many more hide them.

10:48 PM

If that's not your ultimate goal, please tell me what is. I'm curious

@Deleted User

Nothing is going to change unless a major, unimpeachable celebrity talks about having a tulpa.

I personally don't think we need tulpas to be mainstream. I'm fine with us gathering in our isolated communities and learning from and with each other.

yeah, this community is great, but tulpas being mainstream would still probably be a good thing overall

Regarding the terms we use: everything we use now has a commonly accepted meaning, they make sense, and there's no real need to change it as long as we all agree on the meanings. The words aren't inherently bad.

10:53 PM

I will agree though, that if you want to talk PR, Tulpamancy sounds really bad.

10:53 PM

*to me

I'll fight anyone who wants to get rid of "mancy"

I certainly don't think it would be well received everywhere

10:59 PM

For it to go mainstream, unless it was extraordinary circumstance I think it would almost be a requirement to sans the "mancy"

10:59 PM

But I'm very okay with it not going mainstream (edited)

^

We avoided using the word "tulpamancy" in our guide, thought it was too silly (edited)

Makes it seem like something I'm pretty sure it's not

11:00 PM

Just from the name alone. First impressions are important.

When it comes to telling an "outsider" about tulpamancy, you don't really need to talk about the community. The community itself is a bit weirder than the concept of tulpas - just leave someone with the knowledge of what tulpas are as their first impression. This should at help prevent their outlook of tulpamancy being tarnished at least a bit even after they do find the community. (edited)

Tulpamancy is good for slang, not so much an "official" name

But you arnt going to be able to let it out to the public like that

"mancer" means "someone who speeks to" so tulpamancer means: someone who speeks to tulpas, which makes perfect sense

That's not how this stuff works. If it "breaks" everyone will be all over the place.

11:02 PM

I'm not saying the term isn't apt.

11:02 PM

I'm saying it will not be well recieved

I can't see inside the heads of people, but my first guess would be that most people associate "mance," "mancy," and "mancer" with magic.

11:05 PM

I agree it makes sense, which is why the term does not bother me personally.

Honestly, the term never bothered me at all when I first looked at tulpamancy

11:06 PM

the "making imaginary friends and saying they're independent" part did

Folks who wish to push Tulpas into the mainstream may want to consider the impact of a first impression on the general masses.

I prefer a small community

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11:06 PM

It's like what happens to good games when the community blows up, is what I'm afraid could happen here... shallow uninformed people everywhere and so on

the maturity rate would plummet, you could be sure of that

Absolutely.

I feel like most people probably shouldn't be making a tulpa

you think there's a problem with lewdness/people making slaves/ generally being irresponsible now? we're the bloody informed ones

And we have no idea if doing this changes the brain in any fundamental way. There is a possibility of maybe not damage, but bad experiences from a younger crowd

or people making tulpas out of emotions they don't want

11:10 PM

nightmare of an idea

Also trying to limit the age of tulpamancers seems impossible

aye

Morality issues aside. I'm not saying it couldn't be done. But that it shouldn't be done for most people. Especially younger people who don't even know who THEY are yet.

all we can do is urge reconsideration and offer tools

I wonder how old people think I am

no idea

I don't think about it much.

11:11 PM

Ages of anyone. Genders either to be honest

11:11 PM

Doesn't matter to me

I don't think age has much bearing on maturity

i think about gender more than age. i don't need a pronoun for age

In some cases yes. In others no

11:12 PM

The brain certainly isn't fully developed in younger teens for example

11:12 PM

But some of those young teens have more maturity than some people in their 20's

Gender is made more important simply due to language

aye

I agree with age not correlating with maturity in a fair amount of cases

I think you are quite brave to say that you are 14

But we honestly don't know if doing this to a still developing brain has any positive OR negative effects on said brain

personally i doubt it

11:14 PM

in either direction

Tbh we don't know that for fully mature brains either